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TED Circles

TED Circles is an open platform of small groups that engage in conversations about ideas.

Hosted by volunteers, Circles watch and discuss a TED Talk and then share takeaways online to consider each other’s perspectives and create a global conversation. That conversation needs everyone so we hope you'll join as a host (registration below) and/or guest (monthly sign-ups below - please note, greater availability is coming mid-April!).

Circles can take place 100% virtually so they are helping communities stay connected, especially now. And in addition to monthly themes, there is special programming each month about what’s going on in the world so Circles’ discussions are as meaningful and relevant as possible.

The video illustrates how Circles work (in-person and online) and why TED believes in them.

Host a TED Circle

Anyone can host a TED Circle! Volunteers are required to register as a host and list each gathering. Once registered, you receive host resources, gain the ability to list the date and location of your Circles, and join a growing global community of TED Circle hosts.

You are responsible for finding a location, inviting people to participate, selecting a Talk related to the monthly theme, and facilitating a productive conversation. Hosting is an important role and TED wants to help you be a great host!

Want to host a TED Circle?

Register here

This Month

March | Who has powerJoin an online Circle hosted by TED

Eric Liu How to understand power

Conversation starters

  • In the civic arena, which source of power do you experience most often? How does it affect you?
  • Can you think of a time when you had power in the civic arena (e.g. you led a discussion, volunteered to help others achieve a goal)? If so, what checks and balances, if any, were in place to keep you from abusing your position?
  • How can 'power' and 'powerlessness' be balanced? What can you do to be more powerful in everyday life? (Additional resource: Ideas blog post)
  • Choose a topic that your local officials are debating and you feel strongly about. Using the citizenship skills described, what strategies might you use to engage in the debate?

Dave MeslinThe antidote to apathy

Conversation starters

  • Meslin redefines apathy as a “complex web of cultural barriers that reinforces disengagement”. With that interpretation, what rating would you give to the apathy of your community? Why?
  • How much is your community supporting or discouraging your involvement? How does that impact the trust you have in your community?
  • Which two of Meslin's catalysts (e.g. city hall, public space, media, leadership, political parties, charitable status, elections) do you think are the most influential in your society? Why?
  • Meslin offers suggestions on how to knock down the barriers to engagement. Which do you think would be most impactful? What are some methods not mentioned in the talk that might encourage more participation?

Tristan HarrisHow a handful of tech companies control billions of minds every day

Conversation starters

  • Harris argues that as a consequence of maintaining our attention, tech companies are eroding our agency, changing our relationships, and altering our conversations. How have you encountered this in your life? How do you feel about it?
  • How do you think Harris' three changes might help us regain power over these unintended consequences? (e.g. acknowledge we are persuadable, hold the persuader accountable to the goals of the persuadee, design to empower the things people want.)
  • Do you think it is possible for tech companies to foster meaningful connections while remaining profitable, or is the attention-grabbing, “race to the bottom” the only means of survival? Why/why not?
  • Harris imagines a social media that helps us gather offline with the people we care about or redirects controversial conversations to hosted dinner parties. What ideas do you have to reformulate our interactions with social media so it is more of a help than a hindrance?

Pia ManciniHow to upgrade democracy for the internet age

Conversation starters

  • How do you respond to our political systems: with more silence (disengagement) or with more noise (engagement)?
  • How much do you trust your country's political system? How much more would you trust it if your representatives voted in accordance with what citizens decided on a democracy app?
  • Mancini encourages networks and technologies to build alliances, not power vacuums, to be heard. “If the internet is the new printing press”, what democratic institutions do you want to build in the new internet era? (Additional resource: Ideas blog post)
  • Mancini believes “our political system can be transformed, not by subverting it [or] destroying it, but by rewiring it with the tools that [the] internet affords us now.” What kind of tech-based upgrades would you like to see implemented in your political system?

March | Special programmingJoin an online Circle hosted by TED

Alanna ShaikhWhy COVID-19 is hitting us now and how to prepare for the next outbreak

Conversation starters

  • What did you learn about the COVID-19 virus that surprises you? What can we learn from its similarities and differences with past pandemics (e.g. smallpox, flu, HIV/AIDS) that can help us now?
  • What can you do to minimize the spread of germs? How can you remind yourself to do those things?
  • In terms of preparedness, what do you think your country is doing well, and which of your country’s systems would you like to see improved for this and future pandemics?
  • How could countries work together in order to create a global healthcare system?

TED-Ed LessonHow do germs spread (and why do they make us sick)?

Conversation starters

  • How is the spread of the “just right” rhinovirus similar to COVID-19? Why do you think its “mode of transportation” is so different from germs transmitted by insects, water or food?
  • As shared in this video, what are the benefits of staying home when you are sick? What other benefits come to mind?
  • This lesson lists “disease control methods” like mosquito proofing houses, clean water systems and staying home when we get sick. What else can people or governments do to prevent the spread of germs?
  • What can you do to keep yourself clean from germs that are in the air and on surfaces around you? How can you remind yourself to do those things?
  • Additional resource: TED-Ed offers customizable lesson plans (searchable by age-level and subject) and provides a Lesson creator so you can write your own!

TED ConnectsCommunity and Hope

Conversation starters

  • Susan David | How to be your best self in a time of crisis
  • Bill Gates | The healthcare systems we must urgently fix
  • Gary Liu | What we can learn from China’s response to the coronavirus
  • Seth Berkley | The quest for the coronavirus vaccine
  • Priya Parker | How to create meaningful connections while apart

Upcoming months

April | A changing worldJoin an online Circle hosted by TED

Show Talks

April | Special programmingJoin an online Circle hosted by TED

Show Talks

May | Life at its fullest

Coming Apr 1

Previous months

September | World of wonder

Show Talks

October | How to be a better human

Show Talks

November | Justice and society

Show Talks

December | Money matters

Show Talks

January | The future

Show Talks

February | How we love

Show Talks

Suggest other themes and Talks here

Find a TED Circle

Here are the upcoming Circles and the monthly themes they will discuss. View previous Circles.

  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    30 Mar 2020
  • Stephanie Wolcott
    Bogotá
    30 Mar 2020
  • TEDxKL
    Online
    30 Mar 2020
  • TEDxSanIsidro
    Online
    30 Mar 2020
  • TEDxStormont
    Online
    30 Mar 2020
  • Judit Mihalik
    Budapest
    30 Mar 2020
  • University of Buenos Aires, Faculty of Law
    Buenos Aires
    30 Mar 2020
  • TEDxNovyPorgSchool
    Prague
    31 Mar 2020
  • Ting-Ya Liang
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Christian Sextl and Paula Neves
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Starlett Henderson
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Mohamed Salem
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • TEDxValència
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • Antonia Fluturica
    Bucharest
    31 Mar 2020
  • TEDxChowringhee
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • TEDxChicago
    Chicago
    31 Mar 2020
  • DASS
    Online
    31 Mar 2020
  • TEDxChowringhee
    Kolkata
    31 Mar 2020
  • Richard Lucas
    Online
    01 Apr 2020
  • Jason Haber
    Online
    01 Apr 2020
  • Jo Dee Davis
    Columbus, OH
    01 Apr 2020
  • TEDxPokrovkaSt
    Online
    01 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    01 Apr 2020
  • TEDxSchio
    online
    01 Apr 2020
  • Tanin Haidary
    Clemson
    01 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    02 Apr 2020
  • TEDxLeamingtonSpa
    Online
    02 Apr 2020
  • TEDxKL
    Online
    02 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    02 Apr 2020
  • Bucata Emanuel-Damian
    Online
    02 Apr 2020
  • Tracey Hamilton
    Online
    02 Apr 2020
  • TEDxCerroSantaLucia
    Online
    03 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    03 Apr 2020
  • Vivek Juneja
    Online
    04 Apr 2020
  • Jody Thone
    Stillwater, MN
    04 Apr 2020
  • TEDxĐaKao
    Ho Chi Minh city
    04 Apr 2020
  • TEDxInvercargill
    Online
    04 Apr 2020
  • Activate Mental Health
    Perth
    04 Apr 2020
  • Gabriela Alvarez
    ONLINE
    04 Apr 2020
  • María Del Mar Cáceres
    Mariano Roque Alonso, Paraguay
    04 Apr 2020
  • Flying Start
    Online
    04 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    04 Apr 2020
  • Abe Mazliach
    online
    04 Apr 2020
  • TEDxShenzhen
    online
    04 Apr 2020
  • Gabriela Alvarez
    ONLINE
    04 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    05 Apr 2020
  • TEDxCesena
    online
    05 Apr 2020
  • TEDxIGMCRI
    Online
    05 Apr 2020
  • TEDxCanberra
    Online
    05 Apr 2020
  • Mauricio Curi
    Online
    05 Apr 2020
  • Lumiere Sciences
    Online
    06 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    06 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    07 Apr 2020
  • DASS
    Online
    07 Apr 2020
  • Winston Liew
    Kuala Lumpur
    07 Apr 2020
  • Amber Earles
    Rye
    07 Apr 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    08 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    08 Apr 2020
  • TEDxChowringhee
    Online
    08 Apr 2020
  • Ting-Ya Liang
    Online
    08 Apr 2020
  • Jo Dee Davis
    Columbus OH
    08 Apr 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    09 Apr 2020
  • Jon Staenberg
    onine
    09 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    09 Apr 2020
  • Jon Staenberg
    onine
    09 Apr 2020
  • Bucata Emanuel-Damian
    Online
    09 Apr 2020
  • Jon Staenberg
    onine
    09 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    10 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    10 Apr 2020
  • TEDxDaKao
    Ho Chi Minh City
    11 Apr 2020
  • Lumiere Sciences
    Online
    11 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    11 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    11 Apr 2020
  • TEDxLeamingtonSpa
    Online
    11 Apr 2020
  • TEDxKL
    Online
    11 Apr 2020
  • TEDxĐaKao
    Ho Chi Minh city
    11 Apr 2020
  • TEDxShenzhen
    online
    11 Apr 2020
  • TEDxCoventGardenWomen
    London
    11 Apr 2020
  • Pequenines
    Online
    11 Apr 2020
  • Bucata Emanuel-Damian
    Online
    12 Apr 2020
  • TEDxIGMCRI
    Online
    12 Apr 2020
  • Mel Rosenberg
    Ramat Gan
    12 Apr 2020
  • Stephanie Wolcott
    Bogotá
    13 Apr 2020
  • Lumiere Sciences
    Online
    13 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    13 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    13 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    13 Apr 2020
  • Dave Yewman
    Online
    14 Apr 2020
  • John Siciliano
    Online
    14 Apr 2020
  • Dave Yewman
    Online
    14 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    14 Apr 2020
  • TEDxInvercargill
    Online
    14 Apr 2020
  • Lisa Rogg
    Santa Monica
    14 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    14 Apr 2020
  • Ting-Ya Liang
    Online
    15 Apr 2020
  • DASS
    Online
    15 Apr 2020
  • Zoe Horner
    Perth
    15 Apr 2020
  • TEDxBelleville
    Paris
    15 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    15 Apr 2020
  • TEDxSeoul
    Seoul
    16 Apr 2020
  • Lumiere Sciences
    Online
    16 Apr 2020
  • Julie Wilson & Alyssa Hampton
    NY, NY
    16 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    16 Apr 2020
  • Brantlee Underhill
    Newtown Square, PA
    16 Apr 2020
  • Sovari Viktoria
    Nyiregyhaza
    17 Apr 2020
  • Alyssa Hampton
    Online
    17 Apr 2020
  • TEDxChowringhee
    Online
    17 Apr 2020
  • TEDxTehran
    online
    17 Apr 2020
  • TEDxVitoriadaConquista
    Vitória da Conquista
    18 Apr 2020
  • TEDxĐaKao
    Ho Chi Minh city
    18 Apr 2020
  • Ren Ueda
    Nagoya City
    18 Apr 2020
  • RADIANTISM
    Surabaya
    18 Apr 2020
  • TEDxShenzhen
    online
    18 Apr 2020
  • Barbara Cromarty
    Online
    18 Apr 2020
  • TEDxCanberra
    Online
    19 Apr 2020
  • TEDxIGMCRI
    Online
    19 Apr 2020
  • Conversations New York
    New York City
    20 Apr 2020
  • Ozay Ozaydin
    Istanbul, Turkey
    20 Apr 2020
  • McPherson Public Library
    McPherson, KS
    20 Apr 2020
  • Sheri Resnik
    Wynnewood, PA
    22 Apr 2020
  • TEDxTangamanga
    San Luis Potosí, México
    22 Apr 2020
  • TEDxChowringhee
    Online
    22 Apr 2020
  • Luis Viramontes
    Zacatecas
    23 Apr 2020
  • Andrea Olson
    Davenport, IA
    23 Apr 2020
  • TEDxWinchester
    Online
    23 Apr 2020
  • TED Conferences - NYC
    NY, NY
    24 Apr 2020
  • TED Conferences - YVR
    Vancouver
    24 Apr 2020
  • TED Conferences - Distributed
    Online
    24 Apr 2020
  • Wendy Timmons
    Online
    24 Apr 2020
  • On The Road Bccenter
    Curitiba
    24 Apr 2020
  • TEDxDaKao
    Ho Chi Minh City
    25 Apr 2020
  • Reetika Madaan
    Ludhiana
    25 Apr 2020
  • TEDxĐaKao
    Ho Chi Minh city
    25 Apr 2020
  • Lucas Tibirica
    São Luís
    25 Apr 2020
  • Akihiro Ito
    Nagoya, Japan
    26 Apr 2020
  • TEDxNingbo
    Ningbo
    26 Apr 2020
  • Nicky Nazareth
    Online
    26 Apr 2020
  • Safia Kerr and Ritta Yee Fagain
    Phoenix, Arizona
    27 Apr 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    28 Apr 2020
  • Antonia Fluturica
    Bucharest
    28 Apr 2020
  • TEDxValència
    Online
    28 Apr 2020
  • WWK
    Online
    29 Apr 2020
  • Starlett Henderson
    Online
    30 Apr 2020
  • Gerardo Betancourt
    Cancún
    30 Apr 2020
  • TEDxWinchester
    Online
    30 Apr 2020
  • Juhee An
    Seoul
    30 Apr 2020
  • University of Warwick
    Coventry
    30 Apr 2020
  • Flying Start
    Online
    04 May 2020
  • Lisa Rogg
    Santa Monica
    05 May 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    06 May 2020
  • Jo Dee Davis
    Columbus OH
    06 May 2020
  • Tanin Haidary
    Clemson
    06 May 2020
  • Activate Mental Health
    Perth
    09 May 2020
  • TEDxCoventGardenWomen
    London
    09 May 2020
  • Brantlee Underhill
    Newtown Square, PA
    12 May 2020
  • TEDxBelleville
    Paris
    13 May 2020
  • TEDxCerroSantaLucia
    Online
    13 May 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    14 May 2020
  • University of Warwick
    Coventry
    14 May 2020
  • Sovari Viktoria
    Nyiregyhaza
    15 May 2020
  • RADIANTISM
    Surabaya
    16 May 2020
  • The McPherson Public Library
    McPherson, KS
    18 May 2020
  • Sheri Resnik
    Wynnewood, PA
    20 May 2020
  • Zoe Horner
    Perth
    20 May 2020
  • TEDxSeoul
    Seoul
    20 May 2020
  • On The Road Bccenter
    Curitiba
    22 May 2020
  • TEDxTehran
    online
    22 May 2020
  • Abe Mazliach
    online
    23 May 2020
  • TEDxNingbo
    Ningbo
    23 May 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    26 May 2020
  • TEDxTangamanga
    San Luis Potosí, México
    27 May 2020
  • Safia Kerr and Ritta Yee Fagain
    Phoenix, Arizona
    27 May 2020
  • WWK
    Online
    27 May 2020
  • Luis Viramontes
    Zacatecas
    28 May 2020
  • Juhee An
    Seoul
    28 May 2020
  • TED Conferences - Distributed
    Online
    29 May 2020
  • TED Conferences - YVR
    Vancouver
    29 May 2020
  • TED Conferences - NYC
    NY, NY
    29 May 2020
  • Lucas Tibirica
    São Luís
    30 May 2020
  • Nicky Nazareth
    Online
    31 May 2020
  • Akihiro Ito
    Nagoya, Japan
    31 May 2020
  • Eileen Bartholomew
    Portland
    01 Jun 2020
  • Jo Dee Davis
    Columbus OH
    03 Jun 2020
  • Tanin Haidary
    Clemson
    03 Jun 2020
  • Flying Start
    Online
    04 Jun 2020
  • Sovari Viktoria
    Nyiregyhaza
    05 Jun 2020
  • Activate Mental Health
    Perth
    06 Jun 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    10 Jun 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    11 Jun 2020
  • TEDxCerroSantaLucia
    Online
    12 Jun 2020
  • Zoe Horner
    Perth
    17 Jun 2020
  • University of Warwick
    Coventry
    17 Jun 2020
  • On The Road Bccenter
    Curitiba
    19 Jun 2020
  • TEDxTehran
    online
    19 Jun 2020
  • Lucas Tibirica
    São Luís
    20 Jun 2020
  • RADIANTISM
    Surabaya
    20 Jun 2020
  • TEDxNingbo
    Ningbo
    21 Jun 2020
  • Juhee An
    Seoul
    22 Jun 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    23 Jun 2020
  • WWK
    Online
    24 Jun 2020
  • TEDxReggioEmilia
    Online
    24 Jun 2020
  • TEDxIkenegbu
    Owerri
    26 Jun 2020
  • Nicky Nazareth
    Online
    28 Jun 2020
  • Jo Dee Davis
    Columbus OH
    01 Jul 2020
  • Activate Mental Health
    Perth
    04 Jul 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    08 Jul 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    09 Jul 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Mount Gretna, PA
    10 Jul 2020
  • TEDxTehran
    online
    17 Jul 2020
  • Lucas Tibirica
    São Luís
    25 Jul 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    28 Jul 2020
  • TEDxWolverhampton
    online
    04 Aug 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    05 Aug 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    13 Aug 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    25 Aug 2020
  • Eileen Bartholomew
    Portland
    01 Sep 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    09 Sep 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    10 Sep 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    22 Sep 2020
  • focus academy
    DUBAI
    04 Oct 2020
  • focus academy
    DUBAI
    04 Oct 2020
  • focus academy
    DUBAI
    04 Oct 2020
  • focus academy
    DUBAI
    04 Oct 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    07 Oct 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    08 Oct 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    22 Oct 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    11 Nov 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    12 Nov 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    24 Nov 2020
  • Eileen Bartholomew
    Portland
    01 Dec 2020
  • PUC Minas
    Belo Horizonte
    09 Dec 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    10 Dec 2020
  • TEDxLancaster
    Lancaster, PA
    22 Dec 2020
  • Eileen Bartholomew
    Portland
    01 Mar 2021

About TED Circles

We believe that meaningful conversations create interpersonal connections that collectively strengthen communities. Through TED Circles, a host can invite their friends, neighbors, strangers, or a mix - many who have not attended TED or TEDx events - into their home, school, office, and more to discuss a variety of interesting topics. TED provides monthly themes, recommended Talks, and specific conversation starters so the host can focus on engaging everyone in constructive conversations. Here’s a summary of what TED Circles are and are not:

  • They are volunteer-hosted, small, face-to-face (in-person, online) gatherings where topics are safely discussed.
  • They are not a TED event, they are not a club or a one-off gathering, and they do not sell things or raise money.

FAQs

TED Circles are purposefully easy to adopt so they occur regularly plus they are easy to adapt so they reflect hosts’ and guests' style. With many possibilities come many questions:

Who can host a TED Circle?

Anyone! Register to host a TED Circle.

Who can participate in a TED Circle?

Hosts invite guests to participate in their Circle.

What is discussed during a TED Circle?

TED provides monthly themes with aligned Talks and questions to support, not limit hosts. Hosts are welcome to select any content that relates to the monthly theme. Further, hosts may suggest guests watch the content independently beforehand or together at the beginning of the TED Circle.

Where do TED Circles take place?

Locations for TED Circles include yet are not limited to: homes, parks, cafes, schools, workplaces, libraries, etc... and extend to online spaces through video calls!

When do TED Circles take place?

Scheduling can be set by the host or collaboratively agreed with the guests. TED Circles are intended to last between 1-2 hours and occur at least monthly.

If you have additional questions, please email tedcircles@ted.com

Rules of engagement

TED Circles is an open platform which welcomes everyone who believes in TED's values and wishes to engage in constructive conversations about ideas. A volunteer-powered platform calls for some ground rules.

Each Circle is independent but all TED Circles are connected virtually and through a shared brand. Hosts and Circles that do not adhere to the spirit and rules of the program or harm the community in any way will be removed from the program and must discontinue the use of the TED Circles brand. If you notice non-compliance, please email tedcircles@ted.com.

Tell the world about your Circle

Every TED Circle Host is required to annually register their Circle on TED.com and list each gathering. This does not mean that the Circle is open to the public - hosts decide if the Circle is closed (by invitation only) or open (accepting new participants) - but it provides official designation as a TED Circle.

Show off your TED Circles affiliation

When a TED Circle is registered and active, the host may present themselves as a TED Circles Host and use TED-provided TED Circles logo and designs. Always be clear that TED Circles are volunteer-hosted gatherings, not TED events produced by TED staff, and accordingly use the TED Circles logo, not the TED logo.

Be cool

Hosting is a big opportunity and responsibility. Each TED Circle Host must ensure the safety and comfort of their Circle.

Do it for public good

TED Circles are a volunteer endeavor and free to attend. Hosts may ask for in-kind contributions (such as food and meeting space). Hosts and participants may not use TED Circles to gain revenue sponsorship, make money, raise funds, or organize crowdfunding.

Focus on ideas

TED Circles uphold the spirit of TED, focusing on the power of ideas. Welcoming a wide range of perspectives, TED Circles encourage equal participation within a safe environment that promotes curiosity, open-mindedness, debate, inclusion, and generosity. Agendas and self-promotion have no place in these conversations.